Carr is not HIM (2 Viewers)

[SaintAlgiers]

Carr looks like the QB who was benched and released last season after nine years of service to the Raiders.

 

[max]

The days of our quarterback getting the best out of lessor talent are over. This guy couldn’t get his guys up if he force fed them viagra.

The guy has clean pockets or time to throw and still throws passes to the ghost of Danny Abramowitz.

Carr is an overpriced underperforming dud, and the way this team is constructed we are a long long way from seeing the playoffs.

I look forward to this thread being bumped when we make the playoffs.

He’s not HER, either.

Maybe, he’s THEY/THEM!

 

[Grilled Brees Sandwich]

I think the fact all QBs last year were trash and Carr this year is trash point to it being an offensive offense line and poor play calling.

So the real question is why spend 150 million in a four year deal and get a supposed major upgrade from Jameis Winston if you don’t fix those line and coaching issues first. It has been a complete waste of money due to incompetence of the staff to also upgrade the line and the coaching.

If they needed to retool the line and weapons and this year is a rebuilding year, they never should have spent all the money on a QB. Let Winston have one more shot and then make a move (unless Winston showed signs he could be your future QB). The big QB move should have happened next year based on the current talent on offense.

 

[BarBar]

Because he had no time to throw. The Texans were blitzing every one and the OL at that point had become a train wreck. He was unable to setup in any sort of pocket and survey the field. The OL has gone from a dumpster fire to a train wreck.

Pardon me, but they are a dumpster fire getting hit by a train, thus causing a train wreck.

 

[BarBar]

The sight adjustments and hot routes seem non-existent at times, but there are also plenty of examples of us throwing the hero fade when a quick crossing route is open underneath. I really think we have more of a Carr problem than an OC problem, with the Carr problem being heavily influenced by the OL problem.

It's a tough pill to swallow that we signed him to starter money for the next three years, I think @BayouSAINTJoe made a good point when he said this season would be more tolerable if we had Carr on a prove it deal. With the way this season has gone, do you think he would be on track to sign a $150m deal next year if he was a free agent next season?

Dennis Allen's Saints. Where starting QB's come when they are tired of starting and want to be backups for the rest of their career.

 

[sammymvpknight]

 

[BarBar]

I think the fact all QBs last year were trash and Carr this year is trash point to it being an offensive offense line and poor play calling.

So the real question is why spend 150 million in a four year deal and get a supposed major upgrade from Jameis Winston if you don’t fix those line and coaching issues first. It has been a complete waste of money due to incompetence of the staff to also upgrade the line and the coaching.

If they needed to retool the line and weapons and this year is a rebuilding year, they never should have spent all the money on a QB. Let Winston have one more shot and then make a move (unless Winston showed signs he could be your future QB). The big QB move should have happened next year based on the current talent on offense.

Yes. Dennis Allen has completely bungled this situation. We can play the blame game all day, but if the O line was an issue and he didn't fix it in training camp...this is on him. If he didn't notice that these guys weren't any good in training camp, that is even worse!

Spending money on a QB when we have this for an O line is a waste. Are we really supposed to believe that no one had any idea our line was this bad?? I just can't understand what the plan was. He must know this is his last chance, and it is slipping away from him really quickly.

 

[Whodat GT]

He’s not Drew Breese. But it would be nice to see what he can do with decent OLine play.

Today was a visual disappointment

To be fair, Drew Breese is not Drew Brees

 

[El Caliente]

Yes. Dennis Allen has completely bungled this situation. We can play the blame game all day, but if the O line was an issue and he didn't fix it in training camp...this is on him. If he didn't notice that these guys weren't any good in training camp, that is even worse!

Spending money on a QB when we have this for an O line is a waste. Are we really supposed to believe that no one had any idea our line was this bad?? I just can't understand what the plan was. He must know this is his last chance, and it is slipping away from him really quickly.

It’s wild that knowing what they knew, the front office waited so long to draft 1 olinenman, and that guy was a project to begin with.

Drew Brees covered up a ton of this franchises warts.

 

[bobad]

Carr will have some nice games, even 2 in a row on occasion. Then he will break your heart and let you down. He just isn't consistent, will make you believe he is clutch, then show you he isn't.

Elite (top 10) QBs are super-rare. If Carr was the guy as some of the fans believe, the Raiders would never have let him get away. I think Carr is high tier 3 or low tier 2, in the top 20 area. That's a compliment, he's still a rare athlete. If he was 26-28, I would still have hope he could get better. But at this point he's what he is, a good QB who can't quite carry a team without big help from a very solid team.

We can't blame Allen, he was the best QB out there who wasn't heavy with baggage, but we did pay too much.

That's my humble opinion for now, it will change if I see something different.

 

[Infoman]

He's in that same level of QBs that Dak, Kirk, Stafford, and Jimmy G are in... and he's paid accordingly. If you thought you were getting Mahomes, Allen, Tua, Hurts, or Burrow... then you were lost from the get go and your expectations are the issue.

 

[Turfie]

My prediction was that Carr would take over as the new “Dalton line QB”. Meaning if your QB is better than Carr then you probably aren’t super active in finding a new QB. If your QB is worse than Carr then you would be very interested in finding a new QB.

So 6 games into the season Carr ranks:

20th in passing yards per game
23rd in passing TDs
19th in completion percentage
25th in yards per attempt
19th in QB rating
17th in QBR

All of this without an ounce of being a threat on his legs. So on every metric he has been average to below average while being strictly a pocket passer. This is one of the reasons we struggle in the red zone. Carr has 7 total rushing yards through 6 games.

 

[Infoman]

Carr has 7 total rushing yards through 6 games.

This is an issue.... Every great QB in the NFL uses his legs at some point to extend drives.... But Carr has a bum AC joint (and probably shouldn't be running).... and we have the remedy playing TE.... #7

 

[bobad]

Carr is not an elite QB. Never has been. He’s a good QB. Good enough to win with if things around him are good. He’s not elevating anyone. And right now we have good WRs, good RBs, good defense…. But no OLine and horrid coaching.

The latter is killing the former.

My thoughts exactly, maybe I should have read the whole thread before posting.

 

[bobad]

I really think we have more of a Carr problem than an OC problem, with the Carr problem being heavily influenced by the OL problem.

Indeed QBs can make OCs look bad at times and like geniuses at other times. Believe me, the HC knows which is making the other look bad.